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Eastham has some affordable housing off Brackett Road, and there are plans in the works to build more such housing at the former Tee-Time lot on Route Six, which is now owned by the Town. There will never be enough of this sort of housing as long as weekly summer rentals are so desirable on Cape Cod.
One might look at the Trailer Park in Wellfleet, adjacent to the Drive-In which has added a community septic system and has recently added some new sites. With no outpouring of dissent from anyone that I have heard.
I had suggested that the Tee Time site would accommodate a lot of manufactured homes, but that didn't go well. Would manufactured homes work at the Buckley Property?
Probably not allowed by the Zoning Rules that prohibit such domiciles that are perceived as "less than".

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 03/01/2024 - 17:03:57
Richard - 60-70 units in a parcel of property with less than three acres is outrageous. Many seem to feel that 35-40 would more than suffice. Remember - these won't be promised to Chatham people. Who will be the landlord? Way too many unanswered questions. How is Eastham solving its affordable housing?
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/29/2024 - 17:39:46
Judy P: Just how much density would you be ok with ? Maybe none?
Marcella Daniels has not been forgotten .
She was SO against anything but basic Cape Cod houses, homes for one family.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 02/29/2024 - 17:31:26
Dick - Your comments are timely. I can't believe the amount of density these people are talking about for affordable housing. None of the town's policemen or firemen will be able to live there. It's ridiculous and to compound this with a water shortage doesn't bode well for many of us. I had to laugh when I read Shareen Davis' LTE in today's Chronicle. If South Chatham's land was so "vibrant" and such a great legacy for her family why did they sell the Twine Field for profit instead of letting it become affordable housing? Trees have been demolished and land torn apart to build a bike path . This doesn't benefit the majority of residents. If we don't take steps now to prevent this overdevelopment on these properties our town will be lost forever. I smell a LOT of rats here.


. People better fetter acts together and do what we can to stop this overdevelopment of everything here.

JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/28/2024 - 18:00:33
I think it was Castell Kelly of Ruby's Dry Cleaning Shop and Laundromat , told me "You would have been taller if they didn't allow so much for feet".
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 02/28/2024 - 17:22:20
Yep. Chatham is lacking water for its population. What's the solution? Increase the population, of course. Did you see the marketing plans of the merchants? And are we still making exceptions to allow homeowners to increase the size of their dwellings?
Dick Lacatell <Dick.Lacatell@twc.com>
Dalton, MA USA - Tue 02/27/2024 - 19:29:31
To make this relevant to Chatham, my classmate Diane Matteson (CHS 1957) responded to an ad in the Cape Cod Standard Times, seeking a man with large feet to walk in concrete . She turned my name in, unknown to me.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 02/27/2024 - 17:33:54
I did walk in cement at the Yarmouth Barefoot Trader site in 1957. Sneakerless. I got $25.00 for the gig, when gas was 25 cents a gallon.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 02/26/2024 - 17:40:58
Alan: The last time I wore basketball sneakers was maybe seventy years ago. Who knew that they might become collectible? Certainly not mine.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 02/25/2024 - 17:22:39
Right on, Judy! Water is almost at crisis level and how will we supply all these new housing units? Our summer visitors and seasonal McMansion owners are blind to their own use and their year round neighbors needs. People post cute little signs saying "private well" but it all draws off the only aquifer on Cape Cod. Years ago some college professor friends of mine moved their family to VT because they were convinced Cape Cod would run out of water. Prophecy?
Emily Cunningham <Dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Sun 02/25/2024 - 10:54:59
Since there were no actual details about the golf course pump, any chance that it could be extracted or removed from its existing location and rebuilt, if so how's the time to do this. So when the weather gets warmer Judy and Elaine can take some lessons from Richard sporting his newly painted golden sneakers. What could be better, a combination instructor/caddie while having some fun with their tax dollars and getting Richard.s insights about the issues of the day
Alan Wirsul
USA - Sun 02/25/2024 - 08:13:39
Richard......come on now...........don't make me toss a zinger at you. I've got a doozy all tee'd up.
JimP
USA - Sat 02/24/2024 - 17:31:24
Wait, the half expended can of Gold Paint was used to paint the ball on the top of the mast that came from the Pendleton Lifeboat. That mast is now a flagpole at the Old Harbor Lifesaving Station at Race Point. The ball fell off last winter and rolled to the north side of the building. The paint can remains.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 02/24/2024 - 17:07:58
Take heart Richard! The sneaker presentation was booed.
Judith
Harwich, MA USA - Sat 02/24/2024 - 13:18:34
Cute Richard. No one is biting your trolling. The offer to debate is still on the table. Come on Sailor....."dam the torpedoes and straight ahead."

You filled your house with illegals yet?

JimP
USA - Fri 02/23/2024 - 19:00:47
To address some of Emily's concerns, I think all of those decisions (apartments, cottages, condos, rentals vs ownership,etc) have not been made yet and will not be made until developers submit bids. I also think the most frustrating part of all of this is that assuming we or the developer accepts state money or tax credits (I am really not sure how it all works) then the local preference is out the window, or a low percentage, I also believe I read that if a family doesn't live here, but either works in town or sends a child to school, they get preferential treatment.the rules are very complicated.
As for the golf course, I would like to know the revenue brought in before saying $150k is a waste. Maybe it's a small amount compared to the revenue it generates. I am so glad CBI doesn't own the golf course. Remember the plan for condos which preceded the eminent domain case? yes, that cost us a lot of money but still I am glad the town owns it.

Amy
USA - Fri 02/23/2024 - 17:50:53
I have some gold spray paint if anyone wants to paint their sneakers.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 02/23/2024 - 17:33:30
Too bad the "Golf Course" is no longer owned by Chatham Bars Inn, but in fact is owned by the Town Of Chatham. The CBI could readily come up with the money to replace the well. The Town of Chatham can come up with the money as well , but the golfers need to be made aware that they need to be paying increased fees - whatever it takes to make the course enjoyable. If it is irrigation, then so be it.
I caddied there in the late 40's. I do believe there was water to the nine greens back then. Where else would I have gotten a drink of water along the route? Certainly the fairways were not watered then.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 02/23/2024 - 17:29:57
I have never heard anything more ridiculous than this. Yet, they find no reason to tell us "you have to conserve water". Well, I will be watering my plants whether or not it's "allowed". I do NOT play golf and as a taxpayer I object to this expense. Interesting that Mr. Dykens recuses himself from some votes, and yet, not the COA vote or this vote - when he and/or his wife stand to benefit. Hypocrisy and double-standards mean nothing to most of this Board. He made sure he is getting in his ten years of "service" so he can claim insurance benefits from the taxpayers forever from the Town. I think he and a few of his cohorts should be recalled for their actions. As Gloria Hicks said "they clearly are NOT acting in the best interest of those who elected them". I find this more than despicable the majority of this Board continue to act in their own self (centered) interests.
JudyP <judylpat@comcast.net>
West Chatham, MA USA - Fri 02/23/2024 - 15:05:01
We are living in an alternate universe when it comes to Town spending. "Recreation and Beaches" asked the Board of Selectmen for $150,000 to replace a well pump station dedicated solely to Seaside Links. It was approved unanimously because they don't want the golf course grass to die. Glad golf is a priority when probably 10 % of full time residents have ever played a round of golf yet we get to pay the bill. No mention of the water crisis or the bad optics when homeowners are shamed trying to save their homes from mold damage. But Dykens plays there and says it's needed. The hypocrisy and double standard is breathtaking.
Elaine
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 02/23/2024 - 12:36:10
Right on, Judy! Water is almost at crisis level and how will we supply all these new housing units? Our summer visitors and seasonal McMansion owners are blind to their own use and their year round neighbors needs. People post cute little signs saying "private well" but it all draws off the only aquifer on Cape Cod. Years ago some college professor friends of mine moved their family to VT because they were convinced Cape Cod would run out of water. Prophecy?
Emily Cunningham <Dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 02/22/2024 - 19:31:31
I think in the town's haste to "get it done" they are hell bent on charging ahead without taking the water shortage into consideration. Emily raises excellent questions as well. No one seems to have an answer and questions like water and who will get the housing are being ignored. Enough is enough. The Select Board owes everyone answers.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/22/2024 - 18:00:08
First, I'd like to thank everyone who answered my question about charging stations at the Eldredge Garage. Secondly, I find it ironic that the headline in today's Chronicle reads" water demand still outstrips
capacity " yet we have many calling for plans for excessive housing density. Where will the water come from to meet the demands of this housing?

AK
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/22/2024 - 17:04:55
I need some enlightening on the plans for affordable housing on the Buckley and Meetinghouse Rd RFPs. If the goal is to create Chatham workforce housing, what will the final outcome be? Any regulations? For sale or for rent, condos? Purchased property at the market rate? Any subsidies? Apartments, Townhouses, or cottages? We have Lake Street and the Anchorage which I believe are "managed " rentals. I think the discussion about density could be premature before we know what kind of "affordable" housing is in the discussion process. I would be happy to vote for any development that benefits Chatham and it people....not someone from off Cape who works in Hyannis!
Emily Cunningham <Dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 02/22/2024 - 15:08:03
Not sure where some of these terms come from when speaking of the trust housing project, You do not wish to "handcuff the developer" or making "modest profits"". Developers are in the deal to MAKE MONEY. I would think the Trust should set the parameters as to what they want,, not the other way around. The more units built, the more money the developer makes. Not sure what you want, than consider using AI to creat some models for discussion as to what could be or should be., Seems to me, that folks are walking into something near totally blind. Chatham should not be the land of Oz,
Alan wirsul
USA - Thu 02/22/2024 - 09:35:23
I need some enlightening on the plans for affordable housing on the Buckley and Meetinghouse Rd RFPs. If the goal is to create Chatham workforce housing, what will the final outcome be? Any regulations? For sale or for rent, condos? Purchased property at the market rate? Any subsidies? Apartments, Townhouses, or cottages? We have Lake Street and the Anchorage which I believe are "managed " rentals. I think the discussion about density could be premature before we know what kind of "affordable" housing is in the discussion process. I would be happy to vote for any development that benefits Chatham and it people....not someone from off Cape who works in Hyannis!
Emily Cunningham <Dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 02/22/2024 - 08:44:52
Not sure where some of these terms come from when speaking of the trust housing project, You do not wish to "handcuff the developer" or making "modest profits"". Developers are in the deal to MAKE MONEY. I would think the Trust should set the parameters as to what they want,, not the other way around. The more units built, the more money the developer makes. Not sure what you want, than consider using AI to creat some models for discussion as to what could be or should be., Seems to me, that folks are walking into something near totally blind. Chatham should not be the land of Oz,
Alan wirsul
USA - Thu 02/22/2024 - 08:42:30
I think Amy has accurately described what she feels will happen with the density.
The open-ended RFP's allow for developers to propose a project they believe will
work for their company and Chatham. The Affordable Housing Trust does not have
to accept that proposal. They recognize that the voters of Chatham are sensitive
about density. A compromise figure can be reached--perhaps about 40 units in
West Chatham. A compromise that will provide much-needed housing units and a
project where the developer can make a modest profit. Both sides give a little.

JOHN WHELAN <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/21/2024 - 23:00:49
Let's see if they stick to their words. I have zero faith in these people.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/21/2024 - 16:46:12
I watched the entire hearing and stand by my original comments.
Amy
USA - Wed 02/21/2024 - 16:14:32
Amy - as much as I'd like to agree with you, I can't after watching it last night. A few meetings ago Mr Oppenheim got up in front of everyone and basically had a tantrum saying they were going for density. After last night and the comments, they'd be fools not to know the majority of taxpayers are not happy with them. It was said by one individual "we elected you to be our voice, and you are not listening". It could not have been said any better. They tried to appease folks last night but failed miserably. They can say whatever they want - but as far as trusting any of them - that's different story.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/21/2024 - 10:36:57
If I read correctly the article in last weeks Chronicle, it said that the Affordable Housing Trust did not want to put handcuffs on any developers approach to these projects and that is why they didn't limit the number of units. The group also said that this did not mean they would go with the highest density, just that they wanted developers to be free to be creative and, frankly, to submit bids. Nothing is carved in stone at this point. Not even close. I believe there will still be plenty of time for the public's input. That was my understanding anyway.....
Amy
USA - Wed 02/21/2024 - 09:31:43
I hope the folks that watched this charade tonite liked what GloriaHicks said. She was spot on about non- transparency with Mr Schell and Ms Davis for both being on the Affordable Housing Trust Committee and on the Select Board. The Selectmen also set a goal for themselves to get RFP's from non profit developers. They did not do this. There is ZERO transparency with this project. They are going after density and nothing they say will convince others. We need to keep an eye on this Board. Mr. A he'll and Ms Davis should NOT be voting on this.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 02/20/2024 - 21:40:59
Please tune in tonight and watch the Select Board Meeting If the Affordable Housing Committee gets their way, our Town will never be the same with the massive density they want to build. I find it interesting the few outspoken folks behind it have no longstanding ties to Chatham - Mr. Schell and Mr. Oppenheim. They like to tell others what to do - maybe they should build some housing on their lots.
judyp
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 02/20/2024 - 17:27:50
There are at least ten TESLA stalls in Orleans, but they are behind the far end of Stop and Shop, not TJ Maxx. Not visible from most of the parking lot, and there is no signage. I just drove around the backs of the two buildings to find the stations.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 02/20/2024 - 16:32:23
Richard et al
For any municipality (Ie Chatham) to invest in a charming station, one needs to understand a few key basic facts ( sure there s more to understand than listed below)
1. There are currently only 3 Tesla super chargers on the Cape- Orleans, Hyannis, and Mashpee
2. Tesla Super chargers are the most cost effective to the customer and charge at the fastest rate
3.. Richard, the chargers you speak of elsewhere are likely "level 2 chargers" which are very useful to EV drivers but usually are at higher costs and not as efficient
4.whenever evaluating he current charger locations you need to understand how many stalls are at the location. In the case of Harwich Tech school, there are only 2 stalls.
5. Other EV produced cars, other than Tesla, can use a Tesla super charger or level 2, but need to purchase adaptive novels at a one time cost of aboutv $250.
6, Tesla's can even charge of a home 110 system, but the very cost effective and the charging times are very long, so super chargers add revenue because users what to go shop.
7. Some states are even footing some of the bill for the installation of a charging station

For a township to invest in a charging station, the near term cash layout, would provide long term cash flows. Think of the funds saved with a charging stationed powered by solar in combination with municipal vehcile use. Heck the savings could even make for a good down payment on a new Sr. Center-kidding of course.

Alan Wirsul
USA - Mon 02/19/2024 - 20:16:15
Apparently there are two local TESLA Superchargers that I overlooked: one at the Wequasset Inn and one at TJ Maxx ? in Orleans. Obviously this technology is growing faster than the Internet can keep up with the new stations.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 02/19/2024 - 17:39:14
Alan, the fee stated was from the Internet, which shows all the charging stations on the Cape. Presumably it is current info. I didn't mention that there are four stations in Eastham, 2 at the Town Hall and 2 at the Library. None shown in between Eastham and Provincetown. One planned at Cape Associates here in Eastham at their main office.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 02/19/2024 - 17:22:45
Richard
Not sure where or how you are getting the 1.50/hr charging fee. There is no flat fee for using a charger, every system measures the incoming electricity to the car. A normal charge from a Tesla Supercharger where you are taking the auto from 20% charge to 75% (estimated) is about $19.00. If the cost were $1.50, every EV in a 30 mile radius on Cape cod would be there.

The very fact you are calling out so few chargers demonstrates there is a need for chargers and where a town investment could be made. If a charging station were to be placed off Main Street, it would enhance business and the town and indeed the town would make far more revenue than they would with parking meters. The same would be true if an installation were placed at the fish pier.

Yes, the very affluent will more than likely add their 220 lines in their mega homes, but that would not be the customer base. Anyway you look at it, it's a win win for the town and the customer including the tourists.

Alan Wirsul
USA - Mon 02/19/2024 - 08:33:56
The only charging station in Chatham is at the CBI, but it is restricted to guests only. Cape Associates has one in the works. Yes, the Tech School has one. Except for the CBI, these are not free sites. P'Town site at the pier costs $1.50 per hour.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 02/18/2024 - 18:51:10
John
Yours noted and of course I was responding to AK's post which hit on some thing very interesting for Chatham. Not only about the charging stations for a manicipality installation for profit but the adoption of Chatham township vehicles such as an EV patrol car or at least a hybrid. Some departments across the state of ma are already taking advantage of grants to partially fund EV patrol cars (like the Mass EVFP grant).

And closer to home, I believe the Technical high school in Harwich has a charging station in place already who officials could certainly consult with. And just as interesting would be the Folks supporting the Tesla super charger located in Orleans

If Chatham officials wish to save taxpayers money, now is the time to do so while the funds are available. EV's are well past the experimental stage and the train is moving quickly, just as it is doing with AI.

As far as pedestrians and bikers being hit, the drivers have their onboard computers availing and warning them of dangerous traffic situations

Alan Wirsu
USA - Sat 02/17/2024 - 20:18:19
Just to add another aspect to the Buckley discussion; does anyone remember that Joe Buckley Sr. died accidentally of drinking a dose of an agricultural chemical potion that he had mixed up and stored in a beer bottle in his refrigerator?
This came to me from John Pratt, who I think was working for Mr. Buckley at the time.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 02/17/2024 - 17:45:56
In Eastham, we do have some low income housing that is doing well; It certainly looks pretty dense to me, compared to the rest of Eastham with single family homes.
Has anyone checked with the Chatham Police to see how many calls they respond to at the various hotels and motels in Town? Compared to Lake Street ?

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 02/17/2024 - 17:19:15
Re EV charging:
In the case of Tesla super chargers, once in the ground and set up, indeed it is like going to a gas station. All Tesla's have on-board computers. The driver merely activates their screen which has a series of commands available, one of which is "charging". There is a electrical cord that runs from the Tesla equipment into the plug of the car, a no brainer.

The on-board Tesla system does the rest. It indicates your schedule start of charge, how many watts you are taking in as a function of time plugged in and the the cost is automatically sent via the web to a central Tesla control center. Then you are invoiced. Many of the super chargers are located at convenience stores like Wawa. I guess Wawa gets a small negotiated cut for allowing the equipment to be placed on the property. There are also level 2 charging stations where a deal must be worked with the utility company and the property owner.

Alan Wirsul
USA - Sat 02/17/2024 - 13:44:11
I have read the Chronicle regarding density of the lots to be developed. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with the Lake Street housing?
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 02/16/2024 - 19:02:52
I urge everyone to learn about the RFPs being presented to the SB Tuesday, February 20 5:30PM. Come out and ask questions, call in if you can't attend, write letters. The Affordable Houseing Trust has approved an RFP to be sent to developers with a minimum of 36 units for each property but has left the max number of units open to the developers' discretion ( 50, 60 units or more). If the developers come back with a plan and we don't like the number of units , we've been told we then have to go back to the town for the amount of money between what we want and what the developers decided to do. The makes no sense to me. Why not just tell the developers what we want and see their plan? We have been told few developers will look at a small developement. Well Brewster has a nice small affordable housing development with approx. 25 cottage style units. There are developers who will do what we want! Less density is best for the quality of life and desirabilty of these communities.

Check the SB agenda Monday or call Twon offices to confirm Tuesday's meeting. This is our Town, speak up and help preserve what's left of Chatham.

Carol Gordon <cgordon1213@gmail.com>
SOUTH CHATHAM, MA USA - Fri 02/16/2024 - 15:41:36
Richard - we are talking Chatham - not Eastham where you live, nor CBI, nor the military .
If you've read the Chronicle you'll understand the problem . Check the letters that were written against it. Constructing 70 units of affordable housing on less than 3 acres on the Buckley property is ridiculous.

JudyP
WChatham, MA USA - Thu 02/15/2024 - 18:44:50
Oh wait! How about the number of people staying at the Chatham Bars Inn each night in the summer? Is that too many?
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 02/15/2024 - 18:27:24
I can talk density. How about 3500 men living on a Navy ship that is 900 feet long. I know it is not relevant to this discussion, but it was possible.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 02/15/2024 - 17:44:59
Just what is the problem with Lake Street in Chatham? This argument about density sounds so much like an argument Marcella Daniels would make in the 50's at Town Meeting about not wanting apartment houses in Chatham.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 02/15/2024 - 17:42:10
I find it interesting the West Chatham Association has been so quiet as well. So many people in West Chatham were so concerned about the airport, yet they are crickets when it comes to potentially letting the proposed area become another over developed area not keeping the character of our town. This is not a well thought out plan and not listening to the residents of both South and West Chatham is a mistake that will forever change our town.
Ed Mallowes <emallowes@comcast.net>
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/15/2024 - 09:06:26
I find it interesting that no one here has discussed the outrageous density proposed for the Buckley property for Affordable Housing. There have been letters to the Chronicle and today's issue says the AFH Committee is unwilling to listen to the public - they just want density. West Chatham and South Chatham are not the trial areas for these ridiculous oversized developments. We do not want another development like Lake Street. There are not enough year 'round jobs to offer the amount of folks in the amount of housing they are discussing. The West Chatham Association needs to get involved ASAP along with others that are against this ridiculous amount of development on the Buckley property.
JudyP
West Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/14/2024 - 19:46:06
Hard to believe that Ed Marinaro can be in his 70's! Time does fly by when you are having fun. I wonder what ever happened to him.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 02/14/2024 - 18:58:12
Due to interruptions to internet and power services caused by the weather conditions, the Chatham Select Board meeting will convene remotely at 5:30 p.m. for the sole purpose of opening and continuing two scheduled public hearings to February 20, 2024. No other items scheduled on this evening's agenda will be discussed. The Board will convene an additional meeting next week (date to be determined) to act upon those items originally scheduled for this evening's meeting.

Thanks!

Shanna Nealy
Executive Secretary to the Town Manager/Select Board

Shanna Nealy
Chatham , MA USA - Tue 02/13/2024 - 16:09:05
Ed Marinaro played for Cornell around 1970ish. Then played for the Vikings. Most will know him from the TV show Hill Street Blues. One of the best shows ever on TV.
Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/12/2024 - 19:12:04
Actually, Ed Marinaro was a classmate of mine who later went on to play for some NFL team I'm told.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 02/12/2024 - 17:25:19
Since Chatham High never had a football team after one Chatham player died from a head injury , (according to Dave Ryder, )I have never been a football fan. I saw one game at Cornell.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 02/12/2024 - 17:11:37
How many electric vehicles will be hitting pedestrians since you can not hear them if you are a Biker, walker or runner. It will be like chum for sharks putting in chargers.
Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/12/2024 - 14:29:10
Will they have regular 110 plugs for electric bikes?
Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/12/2024 - 14:24:00
@JudyP - I have no insight into how it will actually work at the Eldredge Garage, but it's definitely possible that the Town would get a cut of the EV charging revenue which could offset the original capital expenditure.
James J Dempsey
W.Chatham+Boxborough, MA USA - Mon 02/12/2024 - 13:44:18
Richard - news reported tonite the average price of a Super Bowl commercial is 7 million. I forgot the average amount folks bet. It's all about the money, the partying, and the food. I don't watch it - but kudos to those that can watch this for 4-5 hours.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/11/2024 - 19:15:12
In the big scheme of things, why is the Super Bowl so important to so many? A chance to pig out in front of the TV?
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 02/11/2024 - 18:52:43
That's what I was told today as well; however the taxpayers are paying for the stations. I don't agree with this.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/11/2024 - 17:14:07
AK, I believe they work in a similar fashion as gas pumps where you swipe your card to pay for your charge. I don't know anything about rates.
Tony Murphy
USA - Sun 02/11/2024 - 14:36:48
After reading the Mainsheet regarding the Eldrege Garage building, I was wondering if taxpayers will be responsible for the cost of charging EV cars . Does anyone know how that works?
AK
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/11/2024 - 11:41:27
I support there three J's; Jared , John and James in their view that this erosion is not a burden on Morris Island or Stage Island that the Town of Chatham should bear.
When our lot was eroding here in Eastham there was no support from the Town., or any asked for. Now, in the short run, windblown sand has filled in some of the beach to the tune of 6 feet of added granular stuff over the last three years. No comments from the Town now either. As it should be.
You live near the beach ? Be prepared to deal with a loss, or gain.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 02/09/2024 - 19:33:55
I believe that 197 Tilipi Run was the home that was for sale for $25M a few years ago. (I think they eventually sold it for $14M) I would hate to have invested that kind of money and have the entire house threatened by erosion, but they must have realized that was a possiblility.
James J Dempsey
W.Chatham+Boxborough, MA USA - Fri 02/09/2024 - 09:23:42
Jared, when my home on Holway Street was threatened by erosion, I paid for the legal fight, the engineering of the revetment and the construction. It was a very heavy burden and a significant risk. I believe the same treatment pertains today.
The Quitnessett Association may choose to help the homeowner but the Town of Chatham does not have responsibility. The Town could eventually lose significant
tax revenue on Morris Island. With a rising sea level, access to that end of town might get to be like Lieutenant Island in Wellfleet. Mid-tide and lower only.

john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/08/2024 - 23:03:48
Dave, I don't see the Town bearing any responsibility in regards to Morris Island. Morris Island (with exception to federal lands) are under the control of the private Quitnessett Association. Regarding the property referenced in the news story, any erosion control would probably have to be worked out with FWS as they own the land below that property.

In Josh Nickerson's book, Days to Remember (compiled up to 1988), he ponders what will become of North and South Beaches. He says, "I believe the newly created island, currently being called South Beach, will attach itself to Monomoy, and there will again be quiet water between it and the mainland. But the northerly end of this South Beach will gradually erode, and the point of the North Beach will continue its way southward again. During this process there will again be erosion of the mainland and of Morris Island as the inlet moves south. But this process will take years, even decades, to accomplish nature's design."

Jared Fulcher
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/08/2024 - 20:06:35
Bill- there was a huge swath of land removed from Job Lot I noticed today driving by. Going up the airport road the Owen's house had half the front lawn removed. They are also removing a bunch of trees by the ACO building. I'm all for the bike path but in my opinion this is more than excessive.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/08/2024 - 19:08:39
The erosion at and around the Monomoy Wildlife area is terrible. In reading the CCC and the story about the 197 Tilipi Run home, I was unable to discern who's going to absorb the expense of the significant sheeting. Is that the homeowner or the Town?
Dave Mott <Djmott@aol.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/08/2024 - 10:04:32
I noticed a sign at Job-lot about bike path construction. Does anyone know what they are doing in this area in regards to the bike path?
Bill P
USA - Thu 02/08/2024 - 08:41:41
Very sad. Jeff was in my class. I knew Chris as well. Brandon was younger but still very sad. You never know when your last breath will be. Illness has a way of sneaking up on people when you least expect it. May they rest in peace.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Sat 02/03/2024 - 17:17:53
3 Chatham boys who were teens in the 70's died in the last few months.
Rip, Jeff, Brandon and Chris all just in their sixties.

Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 02/03/2024 - 13:05:12
Thanks John Whelan for the recipe for an Awful-Awful. I don't think I would have finished one, as at the time my stomach was kinda not challenged. I was on limited rations as a student.
By the way, Phyllis Tileston, rest her kind soul, was in a movie with Dave Ryder, back in the late 40's. Shot in Chatham. with the F/V Alice and Nancy. With the CG36500 in a scene or two. She played his wife, much to the dismay of my mother Alice Ryder. And a "summer kid" played my brother Bob.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 01/31/2024 - 17:45:31
Wayne - it's the sewer. We were told today the road will probably be closed tomorrow.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/31/2024 - 15:15:53
Anyone know what is going on at the Harbormasters?
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/29/2024 - 14:30:19
Thanks Richard and John. I think I would have enjoyed and Awful-Awful.
Thomas Doane <tommydoane@comcast.net>
WEST CHATHAM, MA USA - Sun 01/28/2024 - 23:01:34
Tommy, an Awful Awful is just what Richard described. Maybe about 24 ounces.
Close to a pint of Milk, syrup for flavor, 2 scoops of ice cream. Black and
white Awful Awfuls were popular. Chocolate syrup and vanilla ice cream. I
preferred a white and black--vanilla syrup and chocolate ice cream. I don't
remember if I ever finished one. Some other company had copyrighted Awful Awful
and they sued Friendly's and won. The Awful Awful became the Fribble. Same
size, but less popular.

john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/28/2024 - 20:58:43
By the way, Jimmy Cardoza was a Classmate of mine at Stockbridge. He majored in Horticulture, and later became the Head Gardener at the Hallmark Cards Crown Center in Kansas City.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 01/27/2024 - 20:18:01
Tommy Doane:
I was fortunate to go to Stockbridge Agricultural School in 1957, which was on the campus of UMASS Amherst. Tuition was $100 a semester. It was a two year school. I only got a Diploma back then, but was exposed to the various Friendly's in Western Mass. An Awful-Awful was a huge frappe, which was Awfully big and supposedly Awfully good. I think they considered it challenge if you could finish one. I never fell for the bait, as I wanted a good rare cheeseburger.
Like the ones that are served at the Cream and Cone in West Chatham. Hope they reopen!

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 01/27/2024 - 17:30:48
John & Richard: What are Awful-Awfuls?
Thomas Doane <tommydoane@comcast.net>
WEST CHATHAM, MA USA - Sat 01/27/2024 - 16:28:04
Really good burgers, square on toast and Awful-Awfuls. My family loved
Friendly's. I met the Blake brothers a long time ago. I think they started
in Wilbraham.

john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/26/2024 - 18:13:18
Friendly's should have stuck to their original success story - good burgers, frappes and Awful-Awfuls. They got ahead of themselves by trying to expand the menu with a meager kitchen design, only set up for burgers and such , cooked quickly on a grille.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 01/26/2024 - 17:14:41
I loved going to breakfast at that H&K. I think I remember Mary working at Friendly's in Orleans. We used to go there on the way back to Chatham after baseball games.
Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/25/2024 - 18:18:20
I see J. Dubis and Sons from Chatham tearing down the Hearth and kettle in Orleans. That restaurant has been vacant for many years. We still miss it. One of our favorite servers was Mary Eldredge originally from Chatham.
The new tenant will be Chase Bank. Like there is a need for another bank in any Cape town?
When the former Chatham Trust Co. bank site is now vacant? Yes, I know they weren't the most recent tenant.
I had a passbook account in Chatham Trust when they were near the Brick Block in Downton Chatham. Still have some left.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/25/2024 - 17:53:14
As a former member of the Eastham CONSCOM, I would say they only have a concern about what happens to the resource area and the 100 foot buffer zone. Like, debris that could go in to the water, hazardous wastes, fluids, etc.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 01/24/2024 - 17:43:41
I successfully made Anadama Bread in our bread maker, and it tasted just like the bread from the former Haven's Meat Market in North Chatham. I was pleased as punch! Thank you, CHAT-M-Room, commenters! Today, I am trying a variation which adds oatmeal to the recipe. Can't wait to try it.
Carol <Carolann.conners@gmail.com>
Loleta, CA USA - Wed 01/24/2024 - 15:24:19
Question concerning process. Now that the Transfer Station bids have coming in over budget and in excess of Town Meeting approve amount, what is next?
dan young <danyoung97531@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/24/2024 - 07:57:57
Wouldn't the Conservation folks have to approve (the demolition) this since it's on the water? Maybe they did - but as usual it's suspect.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 18:32:04
Unfortunately , money talks. I just hope that no laws are being circumvented.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 17:54:11
Jared - Slowly ruining Chatham one house at a time. I hardly think that house needed any renovation. I'd like to know when he'll fix the eyesore he created on Bridge Street.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 17:50:27
If you take a trip down Shore Road, you'll see Dr. Aucoin's house has been leveled, courtesy of Dollar Bill. A house built in the 1980's and what some would consider of normal size. I can guess how much larger it's replacement will be.
Jared Fulcher
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 17:32:15
Jim: If you have information that you think the government is withholding, then you are protected by "whistleblower laws".
Go for it !
The last time I drank with an Army officer,( a young drafted 1st LT) it was in Vietnam at the bar on the roof of our" quarters" in Rach Gia. Look it up. A wonderful fishing village.
We both agreed that we , the US, should not be in Vietnam.
I do not plan to accept your kind offer of a debate at the Squire.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 17:13:10
Richard, I am 100% with you!!! I agree on the disinformation out there - especially when government leans on private entities to stifle, bury, or flat-out ban critical information.

How about this: I'll come up and you and I can debate this at the Squire a month before the election. We'll sell tickets and the benefits got to John H and various charities. I'm astounded at the lack of critical information from the media up here.

You're a philanthropic man with a wonderful heart. We'll have a lot of fun.

JimP
USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 16:30:49
Jim P is also not alone.
Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 13:49:54
Richard, you are not alone.
Judith Winters <notdc@comcast.net>
Harwich, MA USA - Tue 01/23/2024 - 11:41:31
Goodness knows I could respond to JimP, but I won't .
I will wait until we get much closer to Election time, maybe a week away, when I will fire my cannons.

At the risk of being excommunicated from this site, suffice it to say I am deeply concerned about the disinformation that is out there..

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 01/22/2024 - 17:26:01
No problem Jim! I know it can be hard.
Tony Murphy
USA - Mon 01/22/2024 - 11:30:17
Understood Tony.
JimP
USA - Sun 01/21/2024 - 22:02:45
The great thing about this chat room is that usually National politics is avoided
Tony Murphy
USA - Sun 01/21/2024 - 20:09:43
Exactly Richard. It is just that the Texas governor didn't ask for them all like you guys do up here. How many are you hosting?
JimP
USA - Sun 01/21/2024 - 19:20:30
For those who are from fishing families, this coming Wednesday at at the Provincetown Senior Center, there will be a showing of a documentary called "I Wanna Go Fishin" about the life of a fisherman from the 50's until the 70's. Free.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 01/21/2024 - 18:56:59
JimP: probably the same number as your Texas Governor.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 01/21/2024 - 17:23:26
Paying for illegals costs money. Texas shouldn't have to foot the bill for the Country.

How many has Governor Healy put in her mansion?

JimP
USA - Sun 01/21/2024 - 16:34:44
Another state-wide tax hike proposal on rentals, AGAIN, yet another 1% hike, up to the town, er, the town President, uh, I mean Manager, right? (Those who rent out their primary homes should be EXEMPT from ALL of this tax, but are not.)
Melissa R <ccblues@comcast.net>
Chatham , MA USA - Sun 01/21/2024 - 13:02:41
Did anyone see in the Chronicle the request by the Bikeways Committee for $89K to hire (yet) another consultant to figure out a design for 300' for a shared multipurpose path? What a ridiculous waste of money. We have enough employees that are paid well enough to figure this out without hiring more consultants. By the way - the request was buried at the bottom of the article talking about requests for CPA funding. $89,000 to study a design for 300' for the bike path. Let that sink in.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 01/19/2024 - 19:40:37
Thank you Steve, Judy and Tony for telling me and everyone a bout the conditions at the dump! I am there several times a week for six months, so I should have been more aware of the working conditions etc. I even voted for it! Sometimes the summer people aren't nice or able to follow the rules from what I have observed. I apologize.
Emily Cunningham <Dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Fri 01/19/2024 - 19:04:03
Victoria, are you related to Nancy Chase, my high school classmate?
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 01/19/2024 - 17:34:50
John, I thought the Town did or had plans to put a lien on the property when they started cleaning up he Debris away from the road.
Tony Murphy
USA - Fri 01/19/2024 - 09:02:03
Chicky Clark's auto salvage place was known as Midnight Auto Sales, where one could access the back of his lot from the former railroad right of way if I am not mistaken. I have used auto salvage yards (Blonders in Waterford, Ct ) where I paid to take the parts I needed from various vehicles but I never stole anything from the Clarks.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 18:57:33
32 Mill Hill Road has been a rat infested hell hole for years. The town finally cleared the road of his trash and debris, then put up a barrier. None of these measures have stopped the pile from growing. He still regularly impedes traffic with vehicles. The fire department has been to the property at least once to put out a fire that was started overnight. The police have been called repeatedly, and he has been ticketed. There was also a fight in the street at 2:30 AM last year between two "guests " of the residence. The same problems happen down at the river on a regular basis. The town brought in the DEP to investigate further. I'm told they are still waiting on a report.
Victoria Chase <Viccichase0088@gmail.com>
South Chatham , MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 18:52:57
Bill - Chris had told me this past summer there were folks interested in buying it. I see his brother there trying to clean it up. He's got quite the task ahead of him.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 18:26:39
I wonder what will happen to Clarks property now that Chris passed away.
Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 17:45:10
Hoarding is a very serious issue for Chatham and Eastham residents.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 17:30:12
Can anyone answer my question about the possibility of a lien on the property?
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 16:58:11
32 Mill Hill Road has been a rat infested hell hole for years. The town finally cleared the road of his trash and debris, then put up a barrier. None of these measures have stopped the pile from growing. He still regularly impedes traffic with vehicles. The fire department has been to the property at least once to put out a fire that was started overnight. The police have been called repeatedly, and he has been ticketed. There was also a fight in the street at 2:30 AM last year between two "guests " of the residence. The same problems happen down at the river on a regular basis. The town brought in the DEP to investigate further. I'm told they are still waiting on a report.
Victoria Chase <Viccichase0088@gmail.com>
South Chatham , MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 16:40:15
Debris all over you're yard can cause rodent infestation and drive down your neighbors property values. Not to mention that this particular person ran out of room on his own land and was starting to store junk in the road.
Tony Murphy
USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 12:07:44
How does Mill Hill "mess" create a health hazard or how is it a danger to anyone. It is private property.
Cynthia Moore
South Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/18/2024 - 08:24:53
Has anyone been watching the work being done at 552 Orleans Road, on Frost Fish Creek right next to Route 28? Steep embankment (a cliff, really) has been denuded of the trees and vegetation that previously stabilized it, and it is eroding into the marsh and creek. Recent high course tides and high winds have made it worse. I doubt that you or I could get away with that...
Bob F. <robertef45@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/17/2024 - 23:35:08
There are at least three similar sites in Eastham, where in one instance the owner has taken two lots and filled them with treasures from either the Eastham Swap Shop or the metal pile. And a two car garage. His car is filled to the brim with stuff he considers valuable. (He used to volunteer at the Swap Shop until the women volunteers kicked him out.) He has an Amazing amount of stuff. I could conduct a Treasure Tour of the sites here. I feel for the neighbors.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 01/17/2024 - 17:36:21
I have wondered why Chatham puts up with the trash at Mill Hill Road. It has gone on for years after multiple complaints. The Board of Health must have the right to place a lien on the property if it is not cleaned up. Hard ball might
be the only way to get the mess cleared away.

john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/17/2024 - 16:55:59
Steve - I would think the Town would also recognize the mess on Mill Hill Road they have been ignoring forever. There is no excuse for the garbage that continues to grow there and at the end of Barn Hill Road. This as well, would never be tolerated in North Chatham. One of the residents of Mill Hill Road spoke at a Board of Health Meeting and it just fell on deaf ears. This is what you get when you appoint and elect folks that can't or won't do their jobs.
JudyP
West Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/17/2024 - 15:04:34
Steve - Same with the disgusting mess on Mill Hill Road that residents of that road have to live with. It's interesting to see the "powers that be" ignore this stuff and it is more than disgusting. As you said, North Chatham would NEVER put up with this. One of the residents of Mill Hill Road said this at a meeting and he was absolutely correct. It fell on deaf ears.
JudyP
West Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/17/2024 - 15:00:14
It is the towns duty to provide a safe non toxic transfer station. There is no reason why the town can not provide a facility that is on par with other facilities across the commonwealth that will operate unobtrusively and safely for the users, employees and the surrounding neighborhoods. You can bet that this "dump" would not be tolerated for a NewYork minute if it was located in North Chatham.
steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/17/2024 - 08:01:56
Richard, Iran was a cosmopolitan "western-style" country into the '70's. Very modern and wealthy. Moderate views. Jimmy Carter believed the CIA was way too powerful and he and Stansfield Turner gutted the Agency of its top 500 people during the early days of his presidency. This move gutted our intelligence capacity and predictability for years and we never saw the fundamentalist Islamic revolution under Khomenie grew in power and ultimately depose the Shah. We were also powerless to counter it.

That inevitably led to the massive rift in the region (Levant/Magreb) during which the Islamic schism started to break out into open warfare amongst the factions as to who will be the 12th (forget the Muslim term at the moment - but supreme Imam).

Remember, Islam literally means "Obey." They will not be happy until Israel and the Great Sataan (us) are removed from the earth). They believe it is their Allah-given duty.

JimP
USA - Tue 01/16/2024 - 21:38:05
Richard, they still are among some people.
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/16/2024 - 19:56:16
Gulls used to be called "dump ducks".
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/16/2024 - 17:18:43
When I was stationed at the Groton, CT. Submarine base in the late 1970's, there were Iranian Navy people being trained by our submarine force people. They were inside our subs!
Now, Iranians are our enemy. What went wrong? Should we not have engaged them in the first place? JimP might have some input.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/16/2024 - 17:05:51
I remember going to the dump with my mom in the late 60's, early 70's, when we used my dad's homemade trailer to take the 10+ barrels there. That was before plastic trash bags (at I remember,) were common. What a mess! I don't understand why now I can get all the trash from six cottages in back of my station wagon...And the dirt road thru the dump which was often moved was a challenge!
J Hallgren (as user)
Clearwater , FL USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 20:05:43
Steve the stench you talk about. I doubt it compares to the stench from the 80's. I lived on west pond road back then. Loved me some dump smell. Remember the seagulls at the dump, that was fun.

Actually I can't comment on the dump anymore as I don't bother going and just pay to have it picked up.

Bill P
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 19:01:45
Yes there are some old timers on this Room who can compose an entry that is relevant , even to the younger viewers. Charlie's daughter (one of several) Stella Robie was once a classmate of mine, but I don't know whatever happened to her.
I think Charlie Robie was what would be considered on welfare, but was being paid to do a job that most would not want.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 18:47:45
Richard, I had my flash light under 410 shotgun.
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 17:51:44
The Transfer Station is a far cry from the Dump that Charlie Robie oversaw in the 40's & maybe 50's, when rats ran rampant and his pigs ate the best of what they could find. We could go there at night with a flashlight strapped to a 22 rifle and shoot away.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 17:44:53
No problem Emily!! Many don't realize how awful it is until the winter. Time for the fix to be done and to hopefully clean it up and let the workers have a place they can be proud of.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 15:35:56
Thank you Steve, Judy and Tony for telling me and everyone a bout the conditions at the dump! I am there several times a week for six months, so I should have been more aware of the working conditions etc. I even voted for it! Sometimes the summer people aren't nice or able to follow the rules from what I have observed. I apologize.
Emily Cunningham <Dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 14:58:30
You know- I can't help being angry that folks are calling out tbe cost of fixing this place up - yet how many folks didn't have an issue with the funding for the Taj Mahal for a COA? This shows you just how out of touch our priorities are. Do those poor guys at the transfer station have a decent lunchroom? How about lockers? How about heat to warm up? They have to babysit taxpayers who continually throw pizza boxes and other disgusting crap into the wrong bins. It's time to make this a priority instead of wasting more time and money on a COA that has been voted down numerous times. The employees there deserve better than what they have been putting up with for years.
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 10:29:26
Judy and Steve are absolutely right the conditions at the transfer station are appalling and dangerous for the men who work there! The town employees at the transfer station are extremely friendly and helpful and deserve the kind of work environment that is safe!
Tony Murphy
USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 09:37:11
Emily, The redesign is not a "gussy up " issue. The station was put together in 1994 and has been piece mealed many times since then. There is no other town on the Cape that has such an outdated, unsafe, toxic, noisy and inefficient transfer station. The safety issues alone are appalling. There are no bollards in front of the tipping building to prevent a vehicle from driving or backing into a person dropping trash into the building. The floor of the building is a swamp where contaminated water sits and festers and drains to who knows where. The Cockle Cove aquifer runs right under the property. The stench from the building in the summertime gets blown on the SW wind right into the West Pond neighborhood and the board of Health does nothing about it. The noise from the loader is a near constant affront to any home in the area. Chatham's dirty secret
is the transfer station and the town officishould be ashamed.

steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 08:46:25
Emily, The redesign is not a "gussy up " issue. The station was puttogether in 1994 and has been piece mealed many times since then. There is no other town on the Cape that has such an outdated, unsafe, toxic, noisy and inefficient transfer station. The safety issues alone are appealing. There are no bollards in front of the tipping building to prevent a vehicle from driving or backing into a person dropp8ng trash into the building. The floor of the building is a swamp where contaminated water sits and festers and drains to who knows where. The Cockle Cove aquifer runs right 7nder the property. The stench from the building in the summertime gets blown on the SW wind right into the West Pond neighborhood. The board of Health does nothing about it. Chatham's dirty secret
is the transfer station and the town officishould be ashamed.

steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 08:43:31
I thought we approved the money for the ugrade a few years ago at Town Meeting? Why has this taken so long? And now - look at the price! Those poor guys that work there are the friendliest, most helpful folks - and they have been outside in the nasty weather forever. Now they have a shack they can escape the elements with a sheet of plastic hung over the door. The conditions are horrific for them. Wesson & Sampson know they have a goldmine here in this town. We never had to hire outside companies because employees did the work. Granted, there are some tasks they are needed for - but most likely not to the extent we are utilizing them. I think it's time the Town Manager 's decision are more closely scrutinized. For someone making over $200K per year, taxpayers deserve to know what the heck constitutes this outrageous expense.,
JudyP
W. Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/15/2024 - 07:31:07
Could someone please explain why the "transfer station" needs to be gussied up with a 3 million dollar building? I am appalled by the cavalier spending of this town.
Emily Cunningham <Dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Sun 01/14/2024 - 18:11:49
Selectman Schell suggested that the low bidder provide his detailed estimate so the town can know where the increases came from. Not a chance that the contractor would provide that info. Not in a million years. Weston and Sampson created the estimate, they have some splaining to do
steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/14/2024 - 17:41:10
The transfer station bids were opened but the bidders were not identified. I'm going to request these documents that are public knowledge.
steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Sun 01/14/2024 - 17:34:28
I now have the complete listings of all the Surfmen and Coast Guards men that ever served at any of the 13 Cape Cod LSS/USCG Stations. If you send me a name by email , I can determine where and when your man served. (There were no women, unfortunately.) Some men moved around, and did serve at different Stations.
I believe that Chatham and Nantucket were the only two towns in the US that had 4 USLSS Stations each. This is kind of special, as there were only about 260 Stations nationwide.
Richard R.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 01/13/2024 - 17:44:45
Saw the movie "The Boys In The Boat " this evening in Wellfleet. I think it is playing at the Orpheum as well. Beautifully done - highly recommend it. Based on a true story - like The Finest Hours.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/09/2024 - 19:43:50
Got one from Tony Murphy, my brother-in-law. Thanks to Tony and all others who tried to help.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/09/2024 - 16:59:56
John, there is a '91-'92 listed on Ebay today.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham MA 02633, MA USA - Tue 01/09/2024 - 07:52:05
Sylvia, 1991-1992---a small blue button with no year on it.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/08/2024 - 19:08:10
John, what was the first year they had the buttons? We have one 1992-1993.
Sylvia Fulcher <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/08/2024 - 18:30:59
They (PFarm) must have dropped it, as it was not favorable or fair to women to quote "Anna, damn her." Tell me if I am wrong. The name supposedly came from a man's quote. We need to get by this kind of misogny.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 01/08/2024 - 17:48:56
First Night Buttons-First Night Chatham has come and gone and I did my annual
inventory of First Night pins. I have 2 sets of every First Night pin except
the very first one. Only one of the original pin and I am trying to acquire
a second one. A number of pins to trade if anyone is interested. I have some Art
of Charity pins available also, plus some 80-years Chatham Band pins. I would
also be willing to purchase that first pin if reasonable.

john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/08/2024 - 15:13:30
My very favorite Pepperidge Farm bread was cornmeal molasses which was discontinued years ago. Sounds like what Cynthia Moore mentioned.
Jill James <Theron1962@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/08/2024 - 09:52:01
I had an Anadama bread recipe that was dark. It came from a bread machine book and contained cornmeal & molasses. Original Anadama was sold by Pepperidge Farm and was a lighter colored bread.
Cynthia Moore
South Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/08/2024 - 08:01:40
ANADAMA Bread was actually sold in wrapped packages in my memory. Not sure who the bakers were. The Internet has many references to it.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 01/07/2024 - 17:03:59
Seems to me it was similar to ANADAMA Bread.
Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 01/06/2024 - 16:31:38
Patty Gyolai (Wescott) owns that recipe and still makes the bread (I believe). A couple of years ago she was taking bread orders on Facebook and there was a lot of interest.
Jared Fulcher
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/06/2024 - 16:05:21
Does anyone on CHAT-M-Room have the recipe for oatmeal bread that was made for sandwiches at the former Haven's Meat Market in North Chatham?

Happy New Year to All!

Carol
Loleta, CA USA - Sat 01/06/2024 - 12:54:49
Lonny did a water color painting of the two planes I trained in back in 1966.
Dick Fulcher <dick.marie@comcast.net>
Chatham MA 02633, MA USA - Fri 01/05/2024 - 07:25:13
I own Lonnys painting of the Model T and the J3 Cub flying over the beach and I also have a spectacular painting I had him do for one of my Dad's birthdays. It's a painting of a GeeBee flying around a pyl9n at the Bendix race.
steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/04/2024 - 18:45:23
Steve, yes Lonnie did paint a picture of the Passion Wagon and it was sold at the yard sale at the airport this past fall.
Barry and Sylvia <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/04/2024 - 12:55:53
Did Lonny ever paint Passion Wagon?
steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/04/2024 - 10:39:44
Great history of PassionWagon. https://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/who/case/104
steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/04/2024 - 10:36:17
Richard, The longstanding goose rule is that the leader always has the biggest honker.
steve jesus <sjjesus21@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/04/2024 - 10:29:58
Driving by the ball park in Orleans this morning there was a HUGE flock of Canada Geese there, eating the grass. And providing fertilizer. I wonder who the lead goose is?
Does he or she decide where they go next? Or do they have a committee? Or a Select Board?
I rather think it is one old goose that sets the travel schedule. The rest are OK with being followers.

Richard R. <dickryder413@gmail.com>
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/02/2024 - 16:51:12
I was down Harding's Beach this morning and the duck hunters were digging 2 holes in the sand on shore not far from the 2nd parking lot. Too close for comfort IMHO.....Be careful ...HNY!
Josie
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 01/01/2024 - 13:42:38
Better than a dull line

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