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Folks: You may notice some differences in recent posts from what was there since last night. That is the result of some private conversations between myself and Alan and Ben H, who was now gracious enough to tell me via FB PM:
"John please just delete my posts relating to Alan- you were right .. Leave Alan's on there if you want but take mine down - they don't contribute anything worthwhile - Thanks
Please tell everyone I asked that you remove them as I realized they were not contributing to the friendly spirit of the ChatM room"
However, I chose instead to edit Ben's posts and mine to remove references to the most problematic parts and leave the portions that would have been, I think, OK for all of us. I MUCH appreciate Ben H working with me on this and by giving him some more background info on Alan, that may have helped resolve this.

J. Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Thu 03/21/2019 - 14:17:27
Oh my, here we go again with all this bickering! Please stop, think and be more interested in the true purpose of this Chat-M-Room. Many of the issues facing the NEW Chatham have been created by our new destination status for summer fun. Let's focus more on a few traditional things that attract so many people to visit. Mainly the major loss of our fisheries and fishing families. We are re-building the viewing platform at the Fish Pier for a fleet that probably has lost access to their livelihood, the Atlantic Ocean.

May I remind everyone that after WWII, the well trained returning Vets pitched in to create all the services and small businesses and homes that made the charming well-knit community that visitors learned to love. Those men and their successors are the backbone of the REAL Chatham we enjoy today. Support for the VFW should be a higher priority for funding than anything else.

Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 22:14:57
All the ChatM regulars are "over it" - let's move on
Ben H
USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 21:45:52
Alan: Yes, there have been a few times when your style of writing and content were a bit different than normal here and we've talked about that by phone before, and i think we've resolved most of that. Having said that, the way I prefer all users to deal with personal negative comments like you received is to contact ME directly and not respond HERE because then I may have two users who didn't follow rules.
And - it's "Chronicle" - (spelling that wrong adds to the impression that you're not acquainted with Chatham to some folks)

J. Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 21:18:27
And the Nastiness keeps on coming-which has been typical of some of the contributors of this site, however I knew I would face this disingenuous non sense when I posted earlier.

I could surely put this in many other ways, but I will leave it at this.

If you can still read, you might wish to take a look at this weeks Chronical and some of its articles. For example:

Alan Pollock's "Desperate Mariners seek Answers"

Doreen Leggett's "Not just one Fish, Two Fish Anymore"

Andrew Beckley' Editorial "Utter Disconnect willfully so, between the problems we face and the ability we have to address them.

And as far as the Kool Aid comment and your review of myself on MY LIFE, I hope you can do a little better than this, perhaps first grade 101 might take you to a slightly higher level

Alan Wirsul
USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 20:35:57
John H you provided a great explanation as to the real meaning and character of this room. People like Carl Olson, Jane Patterson, Gary Nick, Tim P and other former contributors are applauding you. Let's be realistic about what's going on here - we have Alan Wirsul, a 68 year old from NJ with no real connection to Chatham other than he found this room. He is reasonable but John you as moderator and we as participants can only continue to politely listen to Alan - some like Judy P may even drink his Kool Ade.
Ben H
USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 19:56:29
John:
Noted, stand corrected on the chat room thing. As for the other issues, one can think of them as you wish-semantics

Alan Wirsul
USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 18:30:46
Alan: You used more than once the term 'blog' which is NOT what this site is. It's a 'chat room' and plays off the word chat as part of Chatham also. A blog is a series of articles or audio/video written/recorded by one person usually and other provide comments on that content. Ok, so it's not that critical but I never want this site to be called a blog because I'm not the author of most of the content.
Also, I consider all things that relate to how the Town/State operates to be political.

J. Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 18:09:47
John, this is your site, but please permit me to comment as follows:

The remarks I made earlier are not politics, they are happenings to Chatham (History occurring right before the eyes of the people). These topics will have profound effects on this township. Chatham is frequently thought of as the preeminence of all of Cape Cod. Your Blog and it's participants could bring the best of Chatham and all of its skill and energy that will be needed to bring positive change. These events will happen to the town, whether some of bloggers choose to join or not.

John, you have made a plea for more people to come to the site. There are many who come to this site who are Chatham Regulars of the past and need and wish to have to look back into the past-Again I get it.

What I do not get is the attempts of social separation and smugness that occurs from many in the 50-60's era and the remark(s) as made below. I have viewed more than a few people who have left your site for these types of comments- The Bloggers leaving are not in the chosen few and these folks wished for only enormously good things to happen to Chatham.

I would hope that more folks like Judy P, the younger Felcher and Elaine would come to this site, as I know they have hopes and dreams for the future of the town and are not afraid to accept the bold Challenges ahead.

Alan Wirsul
USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 16:46:12
Melissa is right because history was the primary topic of the site when it was run by the TeleCam guys but they didn't want any political stuff. I, however, broadened the scope to allow that to give others a chance to post and hopefully get more activity, which it has done. But remember that just because one post is possibly political or town government related, you can post a history one next. There's no fixed thread here and it can wander between topics.
I would love to get more people active here to offset those whom we have lost to illness or death so if you're reading but never posting, PLEASE do so now!

J Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater , FL USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 09:46:30
If you read the mission statement of the Chat-M-Room, history is the first component! It has been my pleasure to read about times when I was either not around or too young to remember. It has also been my privilege to participate in discussions of current events. This venue allows those of us who are not on-site to connect on ALL levels.
If this Chat-M-Room does not meet the requirements of local politics, please feel free to start one with that specific focus. I will remain here. Thanks for listening.

Melissa
USA - Wed 03/20/2019 - 09:33:12
Totally agree with you Alan. Too bad there's not more interest in these discussions. I don't agree however that some of these changes positively affect the Town. The proposed ADU bylaw is a developer's dream - and certainly not the fix folks think they're getting. In addition the proposed COA building doesn't seem to have a lot of support. I believe the Finance Committee isn't on board with the size of the proposed building either. The Sharks and seals are problems that won't be satisfactorily taken care of either prior to summer. The West Chatham roadway project with two rotaries within 900' of each other are still a bone of contention. We shall see how things progress.
JudyP
WChatham, MA USA - Tue 03/19/2019 - 21:09:37
Hey Alan I take exception to the tone of your remarks - let us have our fun and our memories without being criticized - we enjoy sharing those stories and once in a while we even have a quiz about Chatham lore - it's a healthy pursuit for many of us - not to detract from the importance of the community issues you mention, just defending and explaining our right to enjoy ourselves in here .... Barry Jim Hallowell was my uncle, would love to hear your story
Ben H
USA - Tue 03/19/2019 - 20:42:33
So much going on in Chatham that could positively change the community and so little contribution that occur from this site with the exception of a few.
When you have:
Beach Safety: seems like there is more investment directed after a possible shark bite rather than before.

Seals and Sharks Seal population out of control and seems like the thought of nets around at least one of the beaches dropped and fish eaten out of control.

Accessory Dwelling Units: A piece of local legislation that certainly could be tightened up.

Highway construction starting in April May.

Sr. Citizen home a subject that certainly needs more review.

Monomoy Theatre: No shows for 2019?

Sewer cost probably now kicking in a big way.

Dredging: how much, when and where?

And what is the focus on this site? Again, old times, Coast Guard Anchor placement, flowered dress worn or the Kingston trio. How great life was back then, what about the future, the future of your children or your grand children?

And then there is the focus of Chatham's councel. Is there more than one in the community? Is one attorney representing the towns of Chatham, Blackstone, Mashpee and Foxborough or is Chatham having multiple representation?

Alan Wirsul
USA - Tue 03/19/2019 - 16:02:38
When we were teenagers, my friends and I volunteer ushered at the Monomoy Theater.I wore a long flowered dress that I loved and saw all the plays.
Would be nice if that chance were offered to the current generation.

Lisa Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Tue 03/19/2019 - 11:45:43
Does anyone know when or how the large anchor got placed on the Chatham Coast Guard grounds? It sits on the site of the North Tower, which was removed in 1923. Someone with a fairly large boat and truck must have been involved in hoisting it aboard and then transporting it.
I still have several Kingston Trio records, but was not around Chatham in 1963.

Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 03/18/2019 - 18:57:41
Ben, was Jim Hallowell your father? If he was I have a funny story to tell you about his Lyman boat.
Barry Fulcher <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sun 03/17/2019 - 19:30:04
Nick was a fun loving guy and his extended family remains a fixture here in Coronado - I'll be sure to pass on your memories to his sisters, Barbara and Jane, the family was brought up singing close harmony with their father Captain Reynolds and little Nickie learned to sing a third above the melody. The rest as they say is history - he returned home to Coronado in his later years and truly loved to sing and party at the drop of a hat. Fun times
Ben H
USA - Thu 03/14/2019 - 20:46:06
Oh, you folks have me remembering those days of yore! Yes, the wonderful voice of Sarah Vaughn who had to be led on and off the stage at Storyville, the 'new' comedian Phyllis Diller and the fabulous Kingston Trio......I remember the dress I wore to Storyville to see/hear them and I still have their autographs 'To Laughing Face Nancy'. Priceless!
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
USA - Thu 03/14/2019 - 13:37:41
The first date that I had with my wife we went to Storyville to see the Kingston Trio. I think it was 1963. When Patrice Munsel would come to the Cape she would park her motor home in the parking lot at the boatyard. I would come to work at 8:00 and she would be making breakfast and singing. I got to hear her for free. Ben, thanks for the reminders!
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Thu 03/14/2019 - 09:37:19
Barry, I think it is very positive that we can remember an event almost 60 years ago.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 03/14/2019 - 09:32:51
At the beginning of the evening at Storyville, things were much clearer and after we left there, we invited the Kingston Trio at Eric Barnes house, they said 'Sure'. Nick had his pick of the girls. I don't remember being there at 4:30 a.m., but I might have been. It was a memorable time in the late 50's!!
Barry Fulcher <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 03/13/2019 - 19:03:46
The beach party was in South Harwich and 2 of the Kington Trio did attend. Nick Reynolds brought his conga drum and Dave Guard brought a guitar and we somehow stayed up to 4:30 AM. Great memory.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Tue 03/12/2019 - 10:01:42
John and others Be interesting to hear your memories of summer theater and entertainment not just Monomoy but others like Dennis Playhouse, Cape Cod Melody Tent, Storyville, Red Garter,and of course Bud Kastner's Christopher Ryder House.I can remember Jane Fonda as a 19 year old in her first role at Dennis, Sarah Vaughan with a waterglass full of vodka on stage singing like no other, the Kingston Trio fresh out of college performing at Storyville and allegedly attending a Chatham beach party with Duke Courtnell later (in the early morning),and then in the 1970s going for a sail with Spaulding Dunbar and Patrice Munsel before she performed in "Mame" later that evening at the Melody Tent. Just some memories of entertainment on the Cape.
Ben H
USA - Mon 03/11/2019 - 19:45:09
I am aware that there are a lot of difficult steps before the Monomoy Theater is back and in operation. The good news that the new owner is willing to work with is theater group is simply a positive first step. A tremendous amount of work is required to keep this project on track. The Monomoy Theater is a jewel for Chatham and I think the necessary effort is worth it.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 03/11/2019 - 12:03:06
Great news about Monomoy Theater's future- I'm sure John Whelan and others in this room were in part responsible for preserving such an important part of the community - a toast to you from afar!
Ben H
USA - Sun 03/10/2019 - 19:32:18
Like I told Judy before, this is a town that loves studies. Personally, I don't see a catastrophic failure of the dump to the extent that it needs complete reconfiguration. Certainly not a quarter million dollars spent on someone to tell us to turn the arrows in the other direction. As far as odor; it's a dump. Waste stinks. I will not vote to support this, and it's a shame that our elected leaders feel this is worth our time and money.
Jared Fulcher
North Chatham, MA USA - Sat 03/09/2019 - 15:56:30
I totally agree with Judy on this one! If we can fund a fancy COA and dump, why can't we build affordable housing for our young people and essential workforce? Look at all the land available to build for the future of Chatham rather than for retirees?
Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Sat 03/09/2019 - 13:23:51
I was glad to hear the Theater will be saved. The new owners sound as though they want to do the right thing by the Town and that's refreshing. Really delighted as well to hear the usual players aren't involved. I was disappointed to read our Selectman voted to place a warrant for an article at Town Meeting to authorize $250K for design and layout of a new "improved" dump. Instead of paying all these monies for studies and design, isn't this what the Principal Planner should be working on? Ms. Goldsmith and her minions really ought to find ways to make what we have work. No reason to disrupt the woodlands off Middle Road for a COA building that will cost millions. What's wrong with the old Superintendent's building on Old Harbor Road that has sat vacant for years? It's in the downtown area and accessible to everything. Folks wonder why young people can't afford to live here. More and more are expressing their disgust at a town that is out of control on a never- ending spending spree and one that only caters to the wants of a select group of people. I hope folks show up at Town Meeting to vote these ridiculous items down.
Judy P. <judylpat@rcn.com>
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 03/08/2019 - 07:55:18
The announcement at the Selectmen's Meeting today by the mystery buyer had a very positive tone. The buyers have experience in historic preservation and Mr. Greg Clark expressed a willingness to work with The Monomoy Theater group. Good news, so far.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Mon 03/04/2019 - 23:57:26
Although I agree that there could be a better use of the Monomoy Theater property than more over-sized homes, I do not recall any of my family ever having anything to do with it, and seriously question the idea of not considering other avenues of possible uses.
BobR <zut444@verizon.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 03/04/2019 - 15:08:00
John, I heartily agree with you and hope that the backbone of the town we all love, will once again put their efforts whole heartedly into saving another iconic Chatham treasure. We have the Orpheum, and the Village Market only because of the old- time grass roots advocates who fought their brains out! I am so disturbed by "new Chatham vacation homeowners" who do not choose to learn our history and become involved.
Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Mon 03/04/2019 - 14:20:48
The last time I became agitated because of a integral part of Chatham bing lost was in 2009. Bromley Realty Trust, which owns the land under the CVS and the Chatham Village Market had signed a lease with CVS and appeared to be leaving the market with no home. As you all remember, the Town of Chatham and its people let Bromley know that their plan conflicted with the wishes of the people. And we have the wonderful shared property today and the entire town has benefitted. I would like to suggest the beginning of a campaign to let the proposed buyers of the Monomoy Theater of how strongly we feel about retaining the Monomoy Theater.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Fri 03/01/2019 - 21:30:08
It was a great column. So many of our memories are just slowly dying.
Judy P
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 03/01/2019 - 13:25:05
If you get a chance read John Whelan's column in this week's Chronicle. It provides a great history of the Monomoy Theater and a real sense of what the Town of Chatham stands to lose if the theatre doesn't reopen.
Tony Murphy
W. Chatham , MA USA - Thu 02/28/2019 - 17:13:20
Yes Happy Birthday Gordon, and he stills plays golf.
Crayton Nickerson
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/25/2019 - 13:30:50
Happy "Double Snowman" Birthday to one of Chatham's greats - Gordon Pratt
Ben H
USA - Sun 02/24/2019 - 19:16:45
Any news on the Monomoy Theater? I find the secrecy of the potential buyer as a very ominous sign. Sometimes, no news is good news, but not this time.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/21/2019 - 13:37:39
Just a reminder that on February 18th, it will be the anniversary of the Pendleton rescue. One thing we learned from the widow of the first man off the ship was that the cook had prepared hard boiled eggs for everyone. They were to be used as pocket/hand warmers ! Too bad that didn't make it in to the movie. We certainly were not aware of that at the time.

Every summer at Rock Harbor, we seem to meet some people who had relatives on the Pendleton. Last year, it was a grandson of Captain Fitzgerald of the Pendleton. As far as we know, he and Andy were not closely related.

Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Sat 02/16/2019 - 16:31:28
John - thanks for your input! It appears in the past that exceptions have been made. I don't understand why this couldn't be a time for another exception- considering that some of our hard earned tax dollars have paid for renovations to the golf course and repairs of tennis courts and other questionable items. At least if not the full amount of the repair - a sum of money could have been given towards this repair.
Judy P
W. Chatham, MA USA - Fri 02/15/2019 - 09:50:12
I'm not on the CPC Committee, but I know that the VFW would have gotten the money if the repair had not extended to the entire building. Exterior restoration is allowed. I recognize it is a technicality and that there is still resentment over the money given to churches before the State AG ruled it no longer legal. Perhaps the article did not explain the problem adequately, but it is definitely not an attempt to slight the veterans at all.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/14/2019 - 23:23:50
Churches not Vets. What in the world is wrong with this picture?
Judy P
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/14/2019 - 07:43:11
Every Veteran living in Chatham should protest the CPC decision to not fund the VFW furnace repairs! This just isn't right!
Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 02/14/2019 - 07:38:36
No comment on the monies expended for CPC funds in Chatham, but supposedly Chatham Bay scallops are being sold in Orleans at Nauset Fish & Lobster. At least, that is where they told me they were coming from. They also have had scallops from Nantucket and off the coast of either Eastham or Orleans, in Cape Cod Bay .No matter where they come from, they are totally yummy!
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 02/13/2019 - 20:48:42
I made an error - the monies were not for a roof - it was for exterior renovations on a few churches and the Masonic Lodge. No reason funding shouldn't be provided to the VFW. Just another slap in the face to our veterans in this town. Shame on these committee members.
JudyP
WChatham, MA USA - Wed 02/13/2019 - 20:36:00
Interesting to read in today's Chronicle that the Community Preservation Committee turned down a request from the VFW for 205K to upgrade their heating system. Couldn't this have been provided under the guidelines of rehabilitation and restoration? Yet this is the same committee that approved a ROOF at St. Christopher's Church and their other "trendy" projects that the Summer Residents Committee push for? Seriously folks -- WTH is going on in this Town when you deny veterans a place to go? How many members of that committee served in the military? Is it because there aren't enough of the beautiful people that go there and that it's military related? This makes me sick. Oh, and now the push is on for a swimming pool to be added to the new COA being pushed for at Town Meeting that is being built in the boon docks. Give me a break. This town has lost its priorities. I will not be voting for the new COA, along with many other folks my age. No need for another palatial building to be added. We have enough. Fix what we have for the folks that are here now.
Judy P
W. Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/13/2019 - 17:42:33
I will never tell. Time for a spotting scope.
BobR <zut444@verizon.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 02/13/2019 - 17:11:31
Just where are Bay scallops being harvested in Chatham? Oyster River, Pleasant Bay ? Off Monomoy?
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 02/13/2019 - 16:53:43
Well said, J.P. As usual.
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Tue 02/12/2019 - 19:15:22
If one if going to use a fake moniker and makes a comment - he/she should at least have the courtesy to respond to questions from folks who can at least sign their name with dignity.
Judy P
W. Chatham, MA USA - Tue 02/12/2019 - 08:25:01
Yes Richard, I was wondering who is "they"? Also.
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/11/2019 - 20:16:13
One want's to know who is " they"?
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 02/11/2019 - 17:47:17
Get ready for 1000 new moorings in Oyster Pond if they get their way. I for one, do not agree with it.
Stephen Harding
Chatham, MA USA - Mon 02/11/2019 - 15:58:51
Richard, I thought I was the only one that ever "hit the wrong button"
Wayne <alongshore2002@yahoo.com>
West Chatham, MA USA - Sun 02/10/2019 - 19:46:26
Oops: Hit the wrong button. What I had meant to say was that yes, I had heard the term gam to mean a woman's leg. Later on, I found out that to have a gam meant something else. Either way, all good.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 02/10/2019 - 17:17:38
In my "old days",
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Sun 02/10/2019 - 17:13:38
I always thought "gams" referred to women's legs in the old days......at least in that context.
Kathleen Nowak <pies2@bellsouth.net>
Sebastian, FL USA - Sun 02/10/2019 - 08:09:45
It is pretty sad that the Monomoy experience, like staying overnight at a rudimentary camp, walking the distance, or driving from Stage or Morris Island to the Point is no longer available to hardly anyone.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 02/08/2019 - 16:43:50
I think Bob Loring.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Fri 02/08/2019 - 09:31:15
In the 50s the Monomoy crew (Noble Cathcart, Sailor Allen, Tut Tuttle, Tom Pennypacker, John Manson, and so many others) were in one continuous gam session from the time they crossed with Gunny on the ferry to their camps until they returned a week or so later (Monomoy gam sessions were always fueled with a lot of alcohol)
Ben H
USA - Thu 02/07/2019 - 20:16:39
Richard, That was Sleepy!
Nancy Ryder Petrus
USA - Thu 02/07/2019 - 18:02:16
He was one of the eight dwarves
JJ
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/07/2019 - 17:50:55
Is it fair to ask who Creepy was? Did he run a gas station?
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 02/07/2019 - 16:21:37
How about "Nice gams?"
BobR <zut444@verizon.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Thu 02/07/2019 - 15:59:33
The Atwood House Museum used to have "gam sessions" where the old timers would gather and tell tales. My father told the story of "When Creepy blew up the stove". Creepy got his nickname for creeping around and stealing firewood. Some Chathamite puth dynamite in his logs.......and well, you know!
Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 02/07/2019 - 13:48:42
Melissa thank you I always thought GAM was Golf Association of Massachusetts
Ben H
USA - Wed 02/06/2019 - 21:41:25
Thought it was a typo. You made me look it up!
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary defines the noun "gam" as "a visit or friendly conversation at sea or ashore especially between whalers." (It can also mean "a school of whales.") Learn something new every day! LOL

Melissa
USA - Wed 02/06/2019 - 08:52:38
Richard slipped something in here that went unnoticed. How many folk here know what a "gam" is? (Everyone should - or they should turn in their Quahog rakes.

Well done Richard!! Need to keep the lexicon sharp.

JimP
USA - Tue 02/05/2019 - 18:59:48
The Chatham connection to the Perfect Storm movie, and the Eldia grounding, is pretty obvious.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 02/05/2019 - 11:23:40
This coming Sunday, February 10th, the Cape Cod National Seashore will show the movie "Perfect Storm" at the Salt Pond Visitor Center in Eastham. The theater has been redone. The sound and seating is first rate. Movie is free and starts at 1:30. It is sponsored by the Friends of The Cape Cod National Seashore. Last week they showed "Cast Away" with Tom Hanks.
The gam about the "Eldia" grounding scheduled for this coming Sunday at the Orleans Historical Society has been postponed.

Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 02/05/2019 - 10:07:44
Emily, in my indirect way, I am supportive of the Monomoy Theater NOT being allowed to be subdivided/exploited. It is that developers do what they do, and when they develop one property and make $$ on that deal, then they are on to the next possibility. Like, would you go to a dermatologist if you had a bone fracture? Specialists do what they are accustomed to and trained to do.
I used to think that properties in Eastham would never sell for over a million, but alas and alack, that is not the case any more. With the headquarters of GE being moved to Boston, there will be an endless supply of well heeled buyers looking at properties in Chatham, as well as Eastham and parts in between.

Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/31/2019 - 19:45:54
Richard.....PLEASE explain what your last post means. You are a Chatham native, from one of the most respected families, but your perspective is always from Eastham. What does that have to do with Chatham? If the Monomoy Theater disappears to developers need for 6-8 more McMansions, will you cry with the rest of us?
Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 01/31/2019 - 19:29:26
What are you thinking?
Some companies/developers in your town just can't wait to buy a property in the Town of Chatham and turn it in to a revenue stream. When will they arrive in Eastham?
Oh wait, maybe they are already here.

Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/31/2019 - 18:15:32
I think a lot of folks feel as you do John. I hope the developers aren't involved.
JudyP
WChatham, MA USA - Wed 01/30/2019 - 21:07:09
The breaking news is upsetting. The real estate firm representing the owners of the Monomoy Theater property say it is now under agreement. They went on to say that the prospective buyer is not connected to the Monomoy Theater. It will be a significant loss to Chatham if the theater is lost. We certainly do not need another real estate development.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/30/2019 - 18:01:29
I see on the Funeral Home website that Ben did not want to have a public service. So in keeping with his spirit of giving.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 01/30/2019 - 16:17:36
Our condolences to Bens' family.. Sweetheart of a guy...

Gordon and Jean

Gordon B Pratt <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/26/2019 - 09:32:04
Ben was a kind and caring person. He loved his Masonic brothers and their mission but most of all he loved Chatham and its people. Don nominated him twice to be the parade Grand Marshall. He will be greatly missed.
Lisa Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Fri 01/25/2019 - 02:00:38
R.I.P. Ben. A wonderfull man that stood by his wife in times of trouble, and continued on with his family after that.Ben will be mised by many in this community. A truly sad day.
Daniel Meservey <Danmeservey@aol.com>
West chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/24/2019 - 23:51:39
There will never be another Ben Nickerson. Rest In Peace dear soul.
Nancy Ryder Petrus <nansea123@comcast.net>
Brewster, USA - Thu 01/24/2019 - 17:37:34
A sad day for Chatham indeed. His sister Nancy Nickerson Tansey is a CHS 1957 classmate of mine.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/24/2019 - 16:31:54
Just posted on Facebook by Chatham Fire Dept:
"CFD is sad to announce the passing of Ben T. Nickerson. He was a member of our department for many years and a truly kind gentleman. We will pass along more info when it is available."

This site will miss his contributions as well! Real nice gentleman that I'm glad to have known at least a bit!

J. Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Thu 01/24/2019 - 15:17:12
The same Ben Nickerson who is the first 2019 entry wishing everyone a Happy New Year?
(Scroll down)
Poignant and a reality check. All the best to his family.

Melissa
USA - Thu 01/24/2019 - 14:41:53
I was so sorry to hear that Ben Nickerson died this morning at Cape Cod Hospital. Ben was a wonderful man and he will be missed.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/24/2019 - 13:38:21
Let's open some talk about saving the Monomoy Theater! Is everyone still frozen?
Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Thu 01/24/2019 - 09:33:33
I would MUCH prefer anyone wanting to see older posts here to use the History pages that are available via the Site Map page or the white header box on the full Town Common page, which gets you to pages like this for Jan 2005 http://www.chatmroomcc.info/hist/h0501TC.html and which are all linked forwards and backwards to next and prior months at top and bottom respectively.
J. Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Sun 01/20/2019 - 12:19:51
For amusement, here are some of the earliest posts at the CHAT-M-Room from Jan/Feb 2005: http://bit.ly/early-chat-m-room Be careful, though, that page will look just like this real Chat-M-Room, but don't try to post new things there! I'm not sure whether that would work.
James J Dempsey
W.Chatham+Boxborough, MA USA - Sun 01/20/2019 - 12:10:54
Bonnie Snow and I walked out to the Eldia. Because of its size, it looked close, but it turned out to be a very tiring trek on the beach. She wouldn't let me give up.
Lisa Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Sun 01/20/2019 - 04:23:01
The post card photo on the cover of the new CC5 Calendar doesn't show the anchor. A post card of the station with the DUKW and the watch tower in front has what looks like daffodils being raised where the anchor is now.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Fri 01/18/2019 - 13:08:29
Dick, by Biblical accounts, the anchor on the old foundation was from Noah's Ark. As the provision was for all earthly creatures to have a mate; so too did the lighthouse.
Jared Fulcher
North Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/17/2019 - 20:10:43
Anyone out there know when the anchor on the North side of the Coast Guard Station was placed there? Or where it came from?
That is the site of the former North Tower of the Twin Lights, which was dismantled piecemeal and moved to Eastham, apparently by oxen. The new foundation in Eastham was poured without any bolts to hold the tower in position. (The brick cylinder and the conical skeleton combo seems to work.)

Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/17/2019 - 17:50:30
Thank you John. clap clap!!
Sylvia + Barry <barsyl4041@comcast.net>
Naples, FL USA - Thu 01/17/2019 - 12:02:48
If memory serves, the original site was being overwhelmed by SPAM (hacked?) and had to be shut down. Thanks to John H for his years of worthy efforts, making it possible for us to continue to CHAT! Applause, applause!
Melissa
USA - Thu 01/17/2019 - 08:59:53
Richard G Ryder: While MY version of this site began on Jan 27th 2005, the first post from original TeleCam site that I had found was from Jan 1, 2001 and was made by Barry & Sylvia Fulcher!
J. Hallgren (as Moderator)
Clearwater, FL USA - Wed 01/16/2019 - 23:12:22
Barbara - Great comment about the Zoning Board! Same goes for the Planning Board.
JudyP
WChatham, MA USA - Wed 01/16/2019 - 19:23:54
On Sunday, February 10th at 3 PM, the Orleans Historical Society (Bonnie Snow) will host a get together of people who might have visited the Eldia, or watched her go aground. Should be fun! It is at the Meetinghouse, on the way to Nauset Beach.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 01/16/2019 - 11:47:36
Re CG Station Chatham: The volunteers of the CG36500 have turned over 28 $20.00 gift cards to the OIC, one for each member of the crew. That is the limit. Suggest that some of the larger companies like Chatham Boat, The Squire, Realtors, attorneys, etc do the same thing. There has to be a card for each person, with a $20.00 limit. Sort of like compound interest, the 8th wonder of the world.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 01/16/2019 - 11:42:48
Ushered at the Monomoy Theater as a teen-anger and a love of the theater was born. Hoping there will be a way found to save it.
Would also like to remind the ChatRoom readers that the Coast Guard is affected by the government shutdown and the Chatham Coast Guard families might need some assistance.
May I presume to suggest that someone who has the time sit in on the Zoning Board meetings. I did and time after time they okayed plans that did not meet the zoning requirements. If you can't get to a meeting, read the agenda in the Chronicle. Hindsight is 20-20.

Barbara Stevenson <Bejsteve@gmail.mail>
San Diego , CA USA - Wed 01/16/2019 - 11:24:34
How shall we celebrate the birth of this Chat-M-Room, coming up on January 27th?
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Tue 01/15/2019 - 18:46:24
Here is a chance for the private citizens of the Town of Chatham to make up for the loss of three icons: The CG36500, The Old Harbor Life-Saving Station, and the Coast Guard Boathouse at Morris/Stage Island. I hadn't realized that the Monomoy Theater property actually went to Depot Road. Of course it does!
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Mon 01/14/2019 - 17:41:54
Well said John!
Tony
West Chatham , MA USA - Sun 01/13/2019 - 20:58:32
PLEASE - Let us all band together and Save the Monomoy Theater! This is a wonderful asset
to our town. It is a training ground for talented actors and techs - of various descriptions PLUS
giving us all the ability of seeing Live Theater! Nothing like it. We have been so blessed to
have this Jewel in our town all of these years. PLEASE . HELP - Restoration/Not building.

marie <mdburns1@comcast.net>
CHATHAM, MA USA - Sun 01/13/2019 - 12:38:05
The 3.31 acre Monomoy Theater property would be and is a fabulous site for the Monomoy Theater. The theater is an important cultural asset for the Town of Chatham. It would be my hope that a fund raising effort will result in purchase of the property and that the theater would go on. It would seem that the opportunity for a college drama department should be very attractive. Losing the Christopher Ryder Opera House years ago was a serious blow to Chatham and losing the Monomoy Theater should be avoided.
john whelan <sockpirate44@gmail.com>
chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/12/2019 - 22:55:38
Bob - You're not the first person that has suggested that. It's probably going to go for a hefty bit of money. One of my friends said the Town owns too much land as it is. Middle Road is a ridiculous alternative to the other places that have been before the Board. Judging from the recent LTE's in the Chronicle, folks are against using Middle Road - as am I.
Judy P
W. Chatham, MA USA - Thu 01/10/2019 - 07:52:25
The 3.31 acre Monomoy Theater property would be an absolutely WONDERFUL location for a new Council On Aging facility! Walk into town, near the Fire Dept., close to the Community Center's facilities without the need to overbuild the Community Center, and low impaction the surrounding properties. Meets most of the needs voiced by the public, with almost none of the drawbacks. Now that would be a worthwhile civic investment. How could we get the powers-that-be interested in the idea???!
Bob Fishback <robertef45@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/09/2019 - 21:30:53
How can we save the Monomoy Theater from the greedy developers?
Emily Cunningham <dayonown@yahoo.com>
Rancho Mirage, CA USA - Wed 01/09/2019 - 13:20:13
I added a comment - and it did not appear. there was note saying it was not acceptable/inappropriate(?) . please explain - Marie
marie <mdburns1@comcast.net>
CHATHAM, MA USA - Wed 01/09/2019 - 11:57:53
Thank you, Lisa for your kind comments! I've also very much appreciated the comments about Carl and his passion for sharing his chowder near and far. It is so special that he is remembered in such a wonderful way and it means a lot to me. Thank you all!
carol olson <carololson47@gmail.com>
Chatham, MA USA - Sat 01/05/2019 - 16:35:27
Carl was especially proud of his son in law, who, as best I can recall, is an Air fForce member who's job it is to rescue others.
Sad to know that Station Chatham has been down graded from a Surf Station. The boats they have and the conditions they deal with did not allow them enough chances to train new candidates to be Surfmen (or women).
Still think that a 36 foot motor lifeboat, made of whatever material, and still slow, would be useful for most rescues out of Chatham Fish Pier. Stage Harbor based boats, are a different story. The 42 footer there has been proven to be the right boat for that part of the Station Chatham AOR. Area Of Responsibility.

Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Thu 01/03/2019 - 17:59:19
Seems like almost yesterday when Carl sent 20 servings of Chowdah at his own expense to the wounded warrior unit here in San Diego - our Old Goats and Kids Who Care had the privilege of delivering at Christmas time - made such a difference in those young amputees lives to have authentic Chatham chowdah delivered from the Chowdahman - his story became known out here in San Diego - Now Carl is gone but we still stay in touch with those same amputees as they transition to their new lives and they all remember the Chowdah from the Chowdahman - Carl sure reached many people and I think he loved knowing he was truly making a difference in their lives
Ben H
USA - Wed 01/02/2019 - 21:25:16
Anna.. Carl would make his yearly visit to our area here on Glover Square for the 4th of July with his car radio at maximum volume playing marching music, plus he would deliver his famous chowder to my wife.. Great guy..
Gordon B Pratt <jgpratt2@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Wed 01/02/2019 - 10:37:29
Remembering Carl who, because of this very Chat-M-Room, made a point to meet in 2016 and personally handed me a serving of his famous chow-dah. A gracious gesture not to be forgotten.
Melissa
USA - Wed 01/02/2019 - 10:07:50
Lisa: Yes, Carl even made it over here one time for a chowder delivery. Twenty eight years ago, and recently divorced in CT, I met a wonderful woman who casually mentioned she had a summer house on the beach in Eastham. We have been here for 25 years, year round.
Richard Gould Ryder
Eastham, MA USA - Wed 01/02/2019 - 10:05:25
Anna. Every time I eat chowder I think of Carl who so generously drove portions of chowder to all his friends and even some acquaintances. I was lucky to be one of them. And Carol who helped him keep up the custom when his COPD made it difficult for him is also a Chatham treasure.
Lisa Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Tue 01/01/2019 - 11:55:31
Richard: Bonnie, Judy, Nancy and I still keep in touch. I have even forgiven Bonnie for using her considerable energy and talent to keep Orleans History alive rather than focusing on Chatham. And you; how did you end up in Eastham?
Lisa Edge
Cherry Hill, NJ USA - Tue 01/01/2019 - 11:40:11
Sylvia + Barry,

Regarding the bike path etiquette, I believe your approach is just fine. Here is what the Brewster police posted to their facebook page this summer which seems consistent with what you do.

"For Cyclists: As you approach the road crossings on the bike path you will notice stop signs...those are for you. Cyclists are required to stop. There is no legal requirement that you dismount your bike, however, if you opt to stay on your bike you are treated just like a motorist attempting to cross from a side street. If the approaching vehicles decide to stop and let you cross, that is a courtesy, and it is very important to note, that just because traffic coming from one direction has stopped, does not mean traffic coming from the other direction is going to. Again, imagine yourself driving a car, crossing a busy intersection and you have the stop sign, while crossing traffic does not. Now if you decide to dismount your bike and walk it across...you are afforded all the rights of a pedestrian.

For Motorists: Many of our bike path crossings have a new flashing light warning system (see attached photo). If these are flashing, it means someone may be approaching a crossing. This could be a pedestrian, a cyclist, or maybe even Bambi looking for his family. If you see the lights activated, it makes sense to slow down as you approach the crossing. If you see a pedestrian entering the crosswalk, including someone who is walking their bike, you are required to yield the right of way. If you see a cyclists and you wish to stop for them...that is mighty kind of you. Please, however, do not lock up your brakes to extend that courtesy...unless of course you are on a collision course with someone. Sudden braking could result in you becoming a lot more familiar with the person traveling behind you than you would probably like."

Happy New Year!

James J Dempsey
W.Chatham+Boxborough, MA USA - Tue 01/01/2019 - 11:32:48
Wishing all the chat roomers a Happy New Year.
Crayton Nickerson
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/01/2019 - 10:35:59
Happy 2019 to all of my friends, relatives, lurkers and most everyone else that follow this room.
BobR <zut444@verizon.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/01/2019 - 09:17:13
Happy New Year 2019!
Benjamin T. Nickerson <btnick2002@comcast.net>
Chatham, MA USA - Tue 01/01/2019 - 06:10:22
Better than a dull line

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